J'aime les deux mais Dougan en a fait quelque chose de sublime :-)
Bon week-end à vous, Bizes.
Here’s a question for the Javascript boffins. When I began giving my username and password out, two people got it: Robin and Daisy at Six Apart. Daisy was able to confirm that it was nearly impossible to compose as me, even from Six Apart HQ. Robin (correct me if I am wrong) was able to get the compose window on a mobile device.
My theory is that the mobile device loaded limited Javascript, and since the tags are in a Javascript script, they were not called.
However, to put that theory to the test, I turned off Java and Javascript in Firefox, to see if the compose window would materialize. Again, I got our old friend, the blank screen. So, any Javascript geeks out there willing to give me some advice?
Now, I am sure my tags are down to the level that they were at before October 28 (although I still have a lot), and I have a far smaller group of Vox neighbours, but Vox is not trouble-free.
And when I look at Patricia’s site, she doesn’t have that many tags.
I’m giving the other site a try right now and see if I can repeat my glitch from last night. If I can, that means cutting back on tags has not helped, and we can relaunch the more outlandish conspiracy theories.
Interesting. Despite removing tags for nearly three hours, which should, in theory, bring me back to the quantity of tags I had before October 28, the compose window still took half an hour to load. I’m beginning to wonder if it was a wild goose chase. But it still remains the most plausible explanation out of all the ones I have heard so far.
The compose window is still taking around a quarter-hour to open, but I am happy with Daisy’s explanation. I believe I am back to the quantity of tags that I was at before the problems began, and have been deleting a lot from the videos—since almost all of the YouTube ones are incorrect. (Either the person on YouTube entered them incorrectly, or YouTube does not allow phrases as tags. Hence there are a lot of tags here with words such as the and of.)
Even after the trimming I have done (which has taken some two hours today), we are still looking at a Javascript script of nearly 260 kbyte. That’s hefty, no matter how you look at it.
I am not sure if that answers Patricia’s problem, and it doesn’t answer the trouble I began experiencing on my other blog last night, but it is a clue.
There must be some related issues (server load, sploggers, etc.) but intuitively, the tag explanation sounds correct.
The Javascript is also executed reasonably early on the compose page, so if it fails to load, then the rest of the compose screen will not come up.
I am no expert, but Vox will need to look at this in an upcoming update. Maybe the script could be executed later. Or, for heavy users, perhaps take away the tag auto-complete feature. I usually type so quickly that I do not benefit from the feature anyway: when it shows up, I have already finished typing the tag.
I’ll continue to delete some more tags, but I think my Vox blog will soon be back.
- 10:16 @leiaswift $1? Wow, now you can get that biggie fries you've always wanted. #
- 10:17 Cable guy is next to my bedroom window. This sucks, because I can't shoot video. On the bright side, he's here to install new monster cable. #
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- 10:57 @docporno I wish! unfortunately, no FIOS in my neighborhood yet. #
- 12:54 New background. Still tweaking it, but wanted to play around for the holidays. #
- 21:00 Drunkish. #
- 21:02 @Levityheaven LMAO. Yeah, have gotten some free stuff from cable guys. But, what doc is talking about is a hardware issue. #
Although this compose window still took a while, Daisy got back to me with a new theory, one that sounds very plausible, about why I had been having so much trouble.
When each compose window loads, it comes with one’s tags (if you look at the source code for a compose window, there is a whole line of them). It is to enable Vox’s auto-complete feature for the tags.
Since I have blogged a lot in the last three years, and introduced a lot of tags, the server appears to time out when loading them with the compose window.
While the video and photo windows also have these tags, I assume they have less code on them.
It doesn’t explain why I had a problem with my second Vox account last night (could it be the cookies?), but I have spent just over an hour today removing tags, seeing if they would make a difference. Most of the unwanted tags on this blog have come in via YouTube video imports, so I’ve focused my efforts there.
Patricia was a regular Vox user and I suspect she will have had her share of tags that led to her problems. However, she only fielded a few dozen posts per annum, so it makes me wonder. She has some long tags, so maybe that was it?
While the tag auto-complete a user-friendly feature, if it causes this much grief, I would not object to having it switched off.
It is still too early to tell if removing some of the tags has helped, but I believe we will soon find a solution. Thanks, Daisy!